Written by: Eric Zuesse at theantimedia.org
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Did your state representatives vote ‘Yes’ on the bill for Obama to send weapons to Ukraine?
It’s a bill authorizing Obama to supply weapons to the bankrupt Ukrainian Government to exterminate (and/or drive out into neighboring Russia) the people in the areas of Ukraine’s southeast that had voted 90% for the Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, whom Obama overthrew in a bloody coup in February 2014; but, of course, that’s not how it’s worded.
Here is how it’s worded:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hres758/text
Here’s the vote, on December 4th:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2014/h548
Here’s the discussion of it (prior to the vote):
http://rt.com/op-edge/211439-congress-obama-statement-resolution-russia/
There were 411 votes for the bill, 10 votes against it.
These were the 10 votes against:
California’s George Miller (D)
California’s Dana Rohrabacher (R)
Florida’s Alan Grayson (D)
Florida’s Alcee Hastings (D)
Kentucky’s Thomas Massie (R)
Michigan’s Justin Amash (R)
North Carolina’s Walter Jones (R)
Tennessee’s John Duncan (R)
Texas’s Beto O’Rourke (D)
Washington’s Jim McDermott (D)
Here’s the relevant recent polling on this matter: http://www.pollingreport.com/russia.htm
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You play with numbers. 90% was in east-south and there were doubts about those votes. Still you point that the bad US overthrown good Yanukovitch. Are you sure it’s all such black and white?
Yes, it’s all that black and white. People forget, and refuse to watch the videos of Victoria Nuland with Chevron, and Exxon behind her saying: “I have talked to a very responsible man in Ukraine, and he said that the future of Ukraine is with the EU” (and of course with the IMF) and people keep buying the baloney. Shame…
It would only be a surprise if congress voted for something the public actually wanted. Over 200 years ago we fought a revolution but still have taxation without representation.
I would ask them the first question again, just replacing “Russia” with “Ukraine”
Sending weapons to Russia would most likely be the start of a war, and Russia is a not a force that you want to mess with
maybe instead look at what’s been leading up to this ie Russia letting a country in the past become independent and helping the to do so, all the political and trade moves the eu nato and the us have made against Russia in the past years. All the countries that the U.S. Have invaded and overthrown the government have been apart of bricks and moving toward a new from of money system the replace the dollar. The past lies the U.S. Government has used to justify invading these countries.
maybe instead look at what’s been leading up to this ie Russia letting a country in the past become independent and helping the to do so, all the political and trade moves the eu nato and the us have made against Russia in the past years. All the countries that the U.S. Have invaded and overthrown the government have been apart of bricks and moving toward a new from of money system the replace the dollar. The past lies the U.S. Government has used to justify invading these countries.
Great… I’m not going to debate 911 one way or another right here, but it was nothing compared to what is going to happen if we keep getting involved. Let’s keep poking the bear and that guy with dreams of rebuilding the CCCP / USSR will declare war, I’m sure of it. This will be a war of the likes that this world has never seen. Russia has just as many nukes as we do, think about that shit… This is bad.
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All,
Hi, Ukrainian here. The revolution that happened in Ukraine was a revolt against corrupt government. It wasn’t against Russia or Russian speakers. It was for a better future in a country where every man, woman, and child has an equal opportunity to live a decent life instead of immigrating or selling last piece of jewelry to buy food or pay rent. Yes, it started as a pro-west movement but quickly evolved into something a lot bigger. And then Putin shit his pants of fear the very same thing will happen in Kremlin and started this war (yes, it’s war.. unconventional but nevertheless, Ukraine is in war with Russia).
To the folk with the tin foil hats on, I’ve got news flash for ya: the world doesn’t revolve around America. Just because there’s an uprising, revolution, or major change in a country, it doesn’t mean the hand of the red, white, and blue capitalist had to do anything with it. Stop being so full of yourselves.
Because US, alongside with UK have failed to keep the structural integrity of Ukraine (here’s some fun reading for you: Budapest Memorandum), providing weapons to Ukrainian army is the hole that US has dug itself into for its inefficiency of deescalating this conflict earlier on.
USA has made the choice in the 90’s: Have a brand new ex-soviet country keep the biggest arsenal of nukes in Europe or guarantee sovereignty and structural integrity of its borders. With the way this has been handled, if I was Iran… I’d keep my fucking nukes.
YAH…Someone else telling the RED, WHITE AND BLUE they aren’t all that!They cannot even control their own police/military from killing people unnecessarily (but they have AT LEAST brought their military peoples up on charges and punished them for the murders) what right to they have to try to police other countries?
Completely agree with everything you have said and would like to add that Canada, where I come from, is only trying to keep the peace with the United States by backing the USA in this conflict.
Things are this way because someone or a grouo wants them this way. And here’s in canada, our pm wants to turn us into American 2. It shows with every new decision he makes.
I am from Russia. I serve in military. Putin serve as KGB in military and very much dislike American. He dream of one day uniting mother Russia again maybe start cold war again. No ww3 American can not invade Russia and Russia only blow up American.
Any sympathy I might have had for Russia and their hillbilly thug puppets in Eastern Ukraine went down with MH-370. The US has sent weapons to worse places. Fuck Putin! Fuck Putin in the ear!
And quite frankly Anonymous, this one is out of your wheel house. I don’t think any of you have any hard evidence that puts Obama in the lead position for the overthrow of the previous corrupt Ukrainian government. The EU had more to do with it than the US. Furthermore if you had affiliates in Ukraine at that time, it is more than likely that they would have been orchestrating operations against said government. Why not target Putin and his minions. The land mass of his current country covers 6 time zones and he’s still willing to kill thousands of innocent people for an insignificant land grab in Eastern Europe. It is ego gone mad. You are focusing on the wrong bad guy. Does this mean a disproportionate number of Anonymous agents are Russians? Also do you guys have any job openings? I know Python and some other stuff.