There was an outpouring of grief and support for free speech and freedom of expression after the 7 January massacre in which 12 people were killed at the office of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Through the hashtag #JeSuisCharlie (I Am Charlie) on Twitter, cartoonists around the world shared their satirical sketches advocating free press in defiance of the terrorists who tried to silence Charlie Hebdo.
The support for the victims mostly came from people who in all probability would have condemned the offensive cartoons of Prophet Muhammad had there been no annihilation. While the brutal murder of editors cannot be justified, it certainly does not make them heroes of free speech. Therefore, perhaps, it didn’t take long for a riposte to come – #JeNeSuisPasCharlie (I Am Not Charlie) as the manslaughter triggered a debate about free speech and its limits.
Charlie Hebdo was considered a radical left anti-racism magazine. However, many would agree that there’s nothing leftist or radical about insulting exploited and oppressed groups with offensive Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian as well as racist, sexist, and homophobic images, however good the intentions.
Yazan Al-Saadi, a blogger in the Middle East, criticized the editorial lines of Charlie Hebdo:
“I see nothing heroic about a bunch of elite white writers and artists picking on the identities and beliefs of minorities. Satire is supposed to be an act that punches up to power, and not down to the weak. The arguments for “freedom of speech” and freedom of the press should not, and must not, place aside the question and understanding of privileges and differing power dynamics that are at work. By acknowledging and understanding that, perhaps we can all work to refine and develop a notion of freedoms that is truly universal and conscious of its role and duties. What is common today is that freedom of speech and freedom of press is brought up to espouse Islamophobic sentiments, and maintaining power, but is ignored when facing issues of immigrant rights at home or wars fought abroad. In other words, “freedom of speech” is already restricted in many ways”.
This definitely raises questions, some very difficult ones. Is this fight for free speech or a fight for the West to continue to be an aggressive chauvinist with immunity? Should the victims be honoured for their courage to draw such insulting cartoons? Who are the proponents of free speech defending here –their right to draw these images, or the images themselves?
Ironically, anti-Islam protesters are exploiting the 7 January murders to expand their already alarming base. The anti-Islamist Pegida movement in Germany has announced that it considers the 7 January attack on Charlie Hebdo as proof that Islamists do not fit in a democratic society since they rely on violence and death as solutions. Pegida has been campaigning against the ‘Islamisation of Europe’ and has held rallies across Germany in solidarity with Charlie Hebdo, and it doesn’t seem to end its campaign anytime soon.
#Pegida, the anti-Muslim hate movement in #Germany will mobilise Monday for #CharlieHebdo. Hate manifests violence. pic.twitter.com/omizExQrB4
— ACSA Collective (@acsacollective) January 8, 2015
Post the Charlie Hebdo shooting, there have been numerous far-right attacks against Muslims in France and Europe. Three grenades were thrown at a mosque in Le Mans, west of Paris. A Muslim prayer hall in Port-la-Nouvelle, southern France, received shots shortly after evening prayers. A blast erupted at L’Imperial, a restaurant affiliated to a mosque in the French village of Villefranche-sur-Saone.
Revenge attacks on Muslim spaces begin in France after #CharlieHebdo massacre http://t.co/50anhW9BEk pic.twitter.com/uKL5El7V2B
— Daily Mail Online (@MailOnline) January 8, 2015
There have been at least 15 such racist-attacks in less than a week.
Anti-Islamists protesters and far-right supporters are not the only ones cashing in on the 7 January tragedy. Governments in Europe are gearing up to push an anti-immigrant legislation.
In Greece, Prime Minister Antonis Samaras blasted the main opposition party Syriza’s immigration stance at an election campaign. “You see what is happening in Europe: Everything is changing dramatically. In France, the Socialist [President Francois] Hollande has sent the army onto the streets. There was a massacre [Charlie Hebdo] in Paris, and here some people are inviting over illegal immigrants and handing out citizenships”.
Le Pen, head of France’s far-right National Front, blamed radical Islam for the Charlie Hebdo shooting. Chief of MI5, United Kingdom’s domestic counter-intelligence and security agency, has called for new powers to help fight Islamist extremism following the Paris attack. In the wake of bloodshed in France, head of Netherlands’ anti-Islamic Party of Freedom Geert Wilders said that the West was “at war” with Islam and called for tough measures against it. “It’s Islam that causes all problems; it’s Muhammad, the Quran that causes these problems and nothing else. If we don’t do anything, it will happen here,” Wilders added as he demanded an end of all immigration from Muslim countries.
We don’t know what the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists wanted to achieve. We don’t know what the terrorists wanted to achieve. What we do know is 7 January will certainly achieve what none of us would have foreseen. Governments will introduce draconian laws, increasing the surveillance state and persecution of Muslims and immigrants. Movements like Pegida will grow so will ISIS and Al-Qaeda. The West will proclaim solidarity with deeply offensive ‘freedom of expressions’ in future.
Provocative speech incites violence, hurts oppressed groups and religious beliefs, and affects innocent lives. This must not fall in the category of ‘free speech’.
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If you don’t understand or don’t know Charlie’s drawings, please don’t talk about it. If you think those people are against muslims (Charb wife is muslim) or against any religion, you’re wrong and you don’t understand. Get your facts straight. The only thing happening in France is unity between people, maybe something you can’t or don’t want to understand, like freedom of speech.
Actually I would easily believe that here are involved same people as in 9/11 deception. Just that here probably french intelligence service is involved too. The system is easy – those 4 caricaturists were by their work probably pain in the ass to ruling elite.
So the easy way to shut them up was to kill them and put some “suspicious” people for scapegoats. And since world elite is selling us a story about Muslim-terrorism…
It was funny I said at my work in the morning other day: “This so called terrorist won’t be caught alive. They will be killed in action.”
News in evening said: “… and terrorist were killed in action of special forces…”
Dead people don’t tell :p
Ok you are defending fredom of speech but dont whant this guy to say hes opinion and askin him not to talk about it, in mi opinion you dont know then what freedon of speech is and you are as astoopid as the terrorist
It hardly suits a person to call others stupid if they can’t even spell it. It makes you look like a hypocrite.
You know, I have heared this a million times, stuff like” he´s married to a minority/muslim/jude/Black so he can´t be a racist, which isn´t true at all, it doesen´t make them less racist..
And another thing is, When someone doesn´t like your joke, you joke with someone else, but when you continue to do so and the person snaps, they are a bad person.
Freedom of speech doesn´t mean on should degrade others, if so then that freedom is for some and not all.
Well in this case Islam is a religion not a race so he wasn’t racist.
Freedom of speech enables us to say, write and draw what we feel like without the fear of censorship or punishment, unfortunately this is not always the case, an example being the Southpark episode where they blocked out the Islamic prophet.
Yes it was an arse hole thing to do but that gives nobody the right to threaten or murder that person. Just because a group of people prohibit the depiction of their prophet in drawing that does not mean the rest of us who are not a part of them needs to follow these rules. Why is it okay to ridicule the other religions but Islam has to have a free pass? It would be nice if we could live in a world where we accepted everyone’s beliefs but, as an Atheist I have a right to voice my opinion on how silly I find religion just like religious people can go out and call me a godless heathen with no morals. I won’t physically harm them because of that.
Excellent..
Someone who understands <3
Actually his wife is an atheist.
Please, remind us how many victims on the anti-islamists actions? Just to compare with the number of victims of anti-nonislamist attaks.
thankyou
Hold on. the fifteen islamphobic fatalities in france in the space of 4 days is quite aweful. up untill now there hasnt been a terrorist attack of this scale that even compares to this and in 96 hours some innocent muslims have been killed. so dont go around thinking its the islamist who are doing all the killing. terrorist doing shit doesnt mean people should take it out on the innocent muslims. so louise remember that more muslims have died and suffered as a cause of the charlie hebdo attacks.
Thanks for your comment.
“The fifteen islamphobic fatalities in france in the space of 4 days” do you know what fatalities means? There was fifteen attacks ( incidents ) Do not manipulate, some people understand English. Shame on moderator, she/he does not know what she/he is doing “Thanks for your comment” LOL
Do you know what “fatalities” means? There was 15 attacks (incidents) not fatalities (dead), do not manipulate. Moderator should not manipulate as well, by saying “Thanks for your comment.” This shows her/his agenda.
Harold, this neither doesn’t answer my question nor has anything to do with it and the topic which is: actions against muslims in France the last few days. How can people consider that a pig’s head is as dangerous as a firegun? So, again: how many victims in the pigs actions?
Louise, don’t bother after reply to Harold by Moderator “Thanks for your comment.” is clear Anonymous are #JeNeSuisPasCharlie So sad
Well now, this was a real silly remark. I do not agree with this article at all. I guess you don’t count the thousands upon thousands who have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are also the ones thats been tortured Guatanamo and Abu Ghraib, nor those who’ve been victims of anti-muslim retalitions. Freedom of speech is worth more than lives and is, in my view, the highest pillar of western society.
If someone feels offended by anothers expressing of there views, they are equaly right to rebuke the one that offende them, but in a verbal manner. It is fine to become offended, most people this at some point or another, but it’s truely not the end of the world. It is also okay to not like the satrical cartoons of Charlie Hebdo, but it would be a serious blow to freedom of speech to ban them.
ok why people never ask about the genocides that happen in palestine none speaks about palestine.and if one is killed in suspecious condition and by chance the murderer is a muslim, all muuslims are terrorists and islam is a bloody religion
ps: in palestine they are not all muslims killed ny zionists none says jews are all murderers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“While the brutal murder of editors cannot be justified, it certainly does not make them heroes of free speech”
They are heroes of free speech.Their lives were threatened for the drawings.They spoke out and said that they would not be silenced.They said that they understood why Muslims were offended but that Muslims must understand why the images were not offence nor sacred to them and therefore they should continue.The cartoons alone were not thought provoking but the discourse surrounding them was.The editor raised a great point that the realities of Islam are not widely understood by Non Muslims as when Islam is questioned people are branded racists.To even ask why, Mohammed can’t be drawn or shown is seemingly disrespectful.We need discourse not a shut down.We need to learn, and if that means provocative discourse then so be it.It’s easy for a blogger with their anonymity to devalue the part and sacrifice the role these men played in democracy and those who mourn them as martyrs. Je Suis Ahmed.
“Satire is supposed to be an act that punches up to power, and not down to the weak.” This!!!
Well I AM a homophobe, but I’m not Charlie. And I think it’s sad these guys got killed but, hey… I think they were spreading their dislike intentionally. So it’s just natural law, and ignorance of that is the real issue we should rally around, if anything. Society and it’s laws wants to pretend the laws of nature are offensive, but really they are very simple and reasonable.
if you are a homophobe then fuck off. we dont need people like you/
On the one hand governments are lining up to use Charlie as support for their respective anti-terror programmes. On the other, it should require us to think very clearly about what is justifiably offensive and what is not. The logic of offensiveness is important: E.g. many people consider the cartoons racist but I can’t see that myself. The irony of the so many leaders showing up who regularly oppress journalists should be put to good use – to confront them about their country’s own transgressions. Journalists killed, jailed or fined for deriding religion is too medieval – and how would we differentiate humorous criticism from the offence of serious critique? For me religion is fair game, and given their respective histories of persecution and mass murder, they need checks and balances.
this article is mis-informed, speculative rubbish. They’re not mocking weak minorities, they’re mocking powerful, oppressive organisations that have enslaved and controlled people the world over for over 2000 years. The last time I checked Christianity was the largest religion in France and Europe, not a weak minority. Nobodies beliefs are more important than our freedom to think and express ourselves freely about them in a peaceful way. We can not stop making jokes because some massive ego’s think their beliefs are worth more than others. Europe has fought the power and oppression of the Roman church, the puritans the reformationists and many other splinter factions to protect our freedoms, if your so ignorant that you don’t know history and you want to replace that with an autonomous, oppressive dictatorship I can recommend North Korea as a good choice of abode.
“Satire is supposed to be an act that punches up to power, and not down to the weak.” is so wrong. Satire should be able to punch everywhere. It is not a sole right of the weak to feel offended or discriminated. Equality means it is equally valid to satirize any opinion weak or powerful.
“The support for the victims mostly came from people who in all probability would have condemned the offensive cartoons of Prophet Muhammad had there been no annihilation. While the brutal murder of editors cannot be justified, it certainly does not make them heroes of free speech.” You are a colossal idiot. That is completely wrong. What kind of fascist is running this site?
“However, many would agree that there’s nothing leftist or radical about insulting exploited and oppressed groups with offensive Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian as well as racist, sexist, and homophobic images, however good the intentions.” Ok genius, you’ve just included most of humanity as victims of Charlie Hebdo’s drawings. So maybe those cartoonists had it coming, eh? Jesus, are you for fucking real? Did you just get out of community college with a zeal in your eyes? The problem with Islam is that it has no use for freedom of expression, the individual cannot dissent in Islam. Like all monotheisms it preaches total conformity and blood thirsty revenge. Jihad is built into this religion. Quit defending cave-men who would have executed Voltaire in the same way. Have you fuckwits at Anonhq ever heard the of the Enlightenment? Did they cover that at your community college?
and, that is a very ignorant generalisation sweety. and what kind of facist and genius mind could say there is no dissent in Islam or freedom of expression? There is lots kind of beliefs in Islam, even I, individually have different kind of understanding about Islam, for example I refuse to follow “hadith” that dont belong to quran while extremists strongly believe “hadith”. There are sufism, cultural traditionalism, individual philosophic versions, merge science and islam versions etc. even there are anarcho muslim punks for god’s sake ahaha (and extermist patriarchal versions too what a pity) You see what you want to see; like 1,5 billion muslim people in earth, I never respected Charlie Hebdo’s caricatures that streotyped muslims and insult what we hold dear, and say noting, doing nothing, just thinking they are rude but they have right to be fashists and no one noticed all these patient people. And wow, some ignorant unpatient extermists attacking cartoonists and we are all bad! Our religion bad. not cute really. And, you know, there is two kind of jihad in quran: first and most important one is “self-education of your mind and soul, fighting with bad intentions, hatred and greed of your own human mind” so you can be a better person. And second, “fight with who attack and hurt you or innocents (humans other than you, trees, animals whatever) and never obey cruel and greedy people” but fighting is not necessarily with weapons. With your mind, your knowledge, your art, your writing. etc. So.. You dont know anything about Islam like that ignorant religious extremists and you all talk and insult and yell. Did you learn all these at your community college, I, wonder 🙂
But the question is, are you tolerant of a joke?
Thank you, sister.
I do not know why this people think we (1.5 billion people) are the same, like one person.
When a Christian or Jew do something and he said that is in the name of his religion, so it means that all Christians and Jews are responsible for his action, WTH is wrong with you people.
Everyone is explaining Islam on his own, there few people on the world who understand Islam, so do not take some verses out of context and begin shouting that all Muslims are terrorist like the prime minister of Netherlands (big racist idiot).
if you do not understand the culture around Satire in France and the sense of humor that goes with it, please do not write about it. What is causing all the trouble is that some people are too serious about religions (all of them), politics, racial differences.. and have lost unfortunately their sense of humor and fun and their ability to understand that any of us has the right to think freely, to agree or disagree with someone else views/beliefs and to express their opinions without being killed.
Essence of this writing somehow very confusing to me! You are saying that freedom of speech is putting muslims in dangerous? In pakistan there is no “freedom of speech”. What happening there? Minority got killed everyday just for lame misunderstandings. In bangladesh, hindus got killed just for a “photoshoped image”! You think they won’t kill in future if there is no cartoon? Wrong! they will kill if you even raise a eyebrow against their activity! if they get chances….
A terrorist cell is not an exploited and oppressed group
“Why the presidents, kings and prime ministers have never led marches of protest against the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Afghans, Syrians, Egyptians, Libyans, Yemenis, and Iraqis?”
The Chechen strongman wrote that he suspected some powerful forces of preparing the whole scenario in order to incite an anti-Islamic mood in Europe or to distract public attention from some brewing global problem.
http://rt.com/politics/221671-kadyrov-chechnya-charlie-hebdo/
“We do not know what the terrorists intentions were?” I haven’t live in France for 25 years and I immediately predicted the intense shitstorm that is now brewing there. Do I believe that these guys didn’t know this would happen? Not for a second. I believe that they either didn’t care or that it was intentional. They intent was to create fear and chaos.
Finally, there can’t be limits to free speech imposed by a government. You may not like what someone has to say, but once you start allowing infringement on that freedom, you’re risking far more dangerous things.
The guys at Charlie Hebdo made jokes in a newspaper, with decent for not all that impresive sales numbers . If you don’t like it, you don’t have to buy it. Simple as that. In 2006, They reprinted the Danish cover of the Mohammed cartoons to say that the press cannot be threatened by abusive forces and they have be pushing the limits of that issue ever since (not that they were strangers to political controversy before that.) But what they did was intentional, they did have the lofty ideal of protecting and they knew it was dangerous. And it was brave.
and, that is a very ignorant generalisation sweety. and what kind of facist and genius mind could say there is no dissent in Islam or freedom of expression? There is lots kind of beliefs in Islam, even I, individually have different kind of understanding about Islam, for example I refuse to follow “hadith” that dont belong to quran while extremists strongly believe “hadith”. There are sufism, cultural traditionalism, individual philosophic versions, merge science and islam versions etc. even there are anarcho muslim punks for god’s sake ahaha (and extermist patriarchal versions too what a pity) You see what you want to see; like 1,5 billion muslim people in earth, I never respected Charlie Hebdo’s caricatures that streotyped muslims and insult what we hold dear, and say nothing, doing nothing, just thinking they are rude but they have right to be fascists and no one noticed all these patient people. And wow, some ignorant unpatient extermists attacking cartoonists and we are all bad! Our religion bad. not cute really. And, you know, there is two kind of jihad in quran: first and most important one is “self-education of your mind and soul, fighting with bad intentions, hatred and greed of your own human mind” so you can be a better person. And second, “fight with who attack and hurt you or innocents (humans other than you, trees, animals whatever) and never obey cruel and greedy people” but fighting is not necessarily with weapons. With your mind, your knowledge, your art, your writing. etc. So.. You dont know anything about Islam like that ignorant religious extremists and you all talk and insult and yell. Did you learn all these at your community college, I, wonder 🙂
wrong place, sooorrryy :S
Reply and I will fix it , just say ‘here’, thanks for your comment.
should i remove this one?
Thank you for that answer! I do agree with you. According me, it is really dangerous to write that” Provocative speech incites violence, hurts oppressed groups and religious beliefs, and affects innocent lives. This must not fall in the category of ‘free speech’” because WHO is going to define WHAT is “provocative”???? In France freedom of speech ends with hate and with incitement to racial hatred, we can’t either have homophobe speeches nor have Holocaust denier. Charlie Hebdo were all BRAVE because it was satire and the right of blasphemy exists in France. It has to be strongly DEFENDED for the FREEDOM of ALL. Please help us! When I write I AM CHARLIE it means FREEDOM.
the thing is they didn’t just mock to the religions. On cover of their papers are govermant ppl, gerard depardieu – french actor!, some politicians etc.. they lost several lawsuits and ok. they payed some prices if wrong. anything else beyond that is unreasonable. I would read that and probably laugh if I understand french.
I believe that your article is some kind of joke that I cannot understand. Maybe because I’m a french withe women so I cannot understand the “racism”.
Maybe You don’t understand the philosophy of this people.
It was do not take everything to the heart because everything can be laughable In the world.
They were free speakers. They were for freedom.
Do not bring some information out of there context.
#JeSuisCharlie #IamCharlie
Why Should Muslims Apologise For The Crime They Did Not Commit?
Because they asked danish people to appologize for something (that was not even a crime!) they did not commit back in 2005. Because those terrorists go to the same mosque as any other muslim. Because they don’t have clear arguments to give us to make the difference between a “nice” muslim and a “bad” one, all they say: we’re different! How? How can one make the difference between a 10 year old nice girl with a niquab and one with a bomb under the niqab? All I want is to understand, and all they say is”it’s not me”. Facts are more important than words. They need to take action if they want to defend their religion. Appologize are nothing but words, it will not bring the dead back. it would only show the world they are questioning themselves and they admit that there is something wrong somewhere in the chain: Allah – Imam – moque -muslim. And only they can fix it.
I do not know why people think we (1.5 billion people) are the same, like one person, and btw, why do you think that all muslims are religious.
the logic behind this generalization is wornnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng.
btw when someone go with you to a church, that means you have the same thoughts about christianity (weird).
are you barking mad!?!?! free speech has no limits! and its always been the core of anonymous to work for that! “I see nothing heroic about a bunch of elite white writers and artists picking on the identities and beliefs of minorities.” islam is not a fucking minoirty! there are 1.8 billion muslims in the world!
“freedom of speech” is already restricted in many ways”. this is correkt and should be dealt with properly.
Is this fight for free speech or a fight for the West to continue to be an aggressive chauvinist with immunity? Should the victims be honoured for their courage to draw such insulting cartoons? well YES THEY SHOULD!!
YOU have turned your backs on your core purpose, you are no longer part of anonymous, YOU are a regular big media lakey! sending normal propaganda to the people. YOU WHO POSTED THIS ARE A FUCKING TRAITOR TO FREEDOME!!
Ok, go out and tell everyone, friends, relatives, strangers etc. your honest opinion about them, will you survive the day or will you be able to ever look in the face of the persons again?
Are you saying that the slaughtering of these people is understandable, or even justified?
I think you are totally missing the point behind the saying ‘I am Charlie’ or are doing so intentionally to be provocative. Either way, you seem to have lost your way, especially on this.
“Training Grenades” where thrown at a mosque!! HAHA…. they would have been better off throwing shoes. At least throwing a shoe is a sign of disrespect.
I’m Christian… Satire sites, magazines, even South Park makes fun of my religion. You don’t see a bunch of Christians running into South Park Studios threatening to kill the workers there for the satire they make! But they were threatened when they did an episode about Mohammed.. So I’d like to know how it’s okay when it’s Christian but not ok when it’s Islam? You think you’re above being made fun of? Nope, welcome to the real world. And if you think it’s okay to kill over satire then I hope you enjoy your stay in hell. 🙂 Good luck with that shit.
“Satire is supposed to be an act that punches up to power, and not down to the weak”.
Satire is meant to be provocating. By being provocative the satire is able to promote a taboo topic, or at least make something more known in some ways.
Also I honestly think that people who cannot enjoy humorous drawings, (religious or not), may have a very boring and dictated life. If you are holding or value your religion higher than others life or even your own, I don’t really think you should be religious at all. All you are doing is damaging that religion.
Charlie’s cartoons uses humour and satire to show that nothing is completely white or black. Nothing is above criticism and that includes Islam.If the cartoons offends, it means that deep down you know there is some truth in it that you are not willing to face probably because your faith is based on ignoring all the bullshit around your religion. You think your religion is completely white? Charlie will find the black and shove it in front of your face! Deal with it in an intelligent manner instead of trying to silence it.
Charlie’s cartoons uses humour and satire to show that nothing is completely white or black. Nothing is above criticism and that includes Islam.If the cartoons offends, it means that deep down you know there is some truth in it that you are not willing to face probably because your faith is based on ignoring all the bullshit around your religion. You think your religion is completely white? Charlie will find the black and shove it in front of your face! Deal with it in an intelligent manner instead of trying to silence it.
this article sucks!
Yes it sucks because we are takling some cartoonists people drawing images of Jesus, Mohammed, Jews, buddhists, politicians, presidents etc.. making harmless jokes for a small audience who enjoy it. And for that it’s ok to slaughter 12 unarmed innocent people? This article sucks indeed!
IMHO Charlie Hebdo did not want to insult religions specifically. For decades it has made fun of everything stupid: armies, communism, racists, the pope, … It’s not Charlie Hebdo’s fault if the religions (all religions) have become the #1 source of stupidity and horror in the news.
liberté d’expression quand ça leurs chante !
Le 2 juillet 2008, Siné avait rédigé une chronique dans Charlie Hebdo dans laquelle on trouvait une réflexion sur Jean Sarkozy, un des fils de la lignée De Nagy Bocsa :
« Il vient de déclarer vouloir se convertir au judaïsme avant d’épouser sa fiancée, juive, et héritière des fondateurs de Darty. Il fera du chemin dans la vie, ce petit ! »
Pour cette petite ironie, il apprit en ouvrant l’hebdomadaire du 16 juillet 2008 qu’il était licencié, soit environ deux semaines plus tard. N’est-ce pas là une méthode digne et respectueuse ? Surtout lorsque l’on sait que l’instigateur de cette technique de renvoi n’est autre que Philippe Val, aujourd’hui directeur de France Inter, nommé par… Nicolas Sarkozy lui-même, le père de la jeune victime.
N’y aurait-il pas là un lien de cause à effet, une récompense ? Nous nous refusons d’aller jusqu’à cette extrémité et laissons ce genre de théories haineuses aux esprits contaminés par le complotisme, le conspirationnisme et la grippe H1N1.
La raison invoquée par Philippe Val pour justifier cette purge est la suivante : selon lui, les propos de Siné « pouvaient être interprétés comme faisant le lien entre la conversion au judaïsme et la réussite sociale, et ce n’était ni acceptable ni défendable devant un tribunal ».
Un petit pas pour le journal, un grand pas pour la liberté d’expression !
Toujours est-il que, quelques temps plus tard, Siné a assigné Charlie Hebdo en justice pour « rupture abusive de contrat ». Le jugement fut rendu le 30 novembre 2008 et le tribunal donna raison à Siné, invoquant le fait qu’« il ne peut être prétendu que les termes de la chronique de Maurice Sinet sont antisémites, ni que celui-ci a commis une faute en les écrivant » et également qu’« il ne pouvait être demandé à Siné de signer et faire paraître une lettre d’excuse ».
Le journal « satirique » hebdomadaire fut condamné au final à verser 20 000 euros au dessinateur pour « préjudice moral » au motif que « la médiatisation de la rupture et le caractère humiliant de son annonce apprise en même temps que les lecteurs par la publication du numéro du 16 juillet 2008, ont causé à Siné un préjudice moral qu’il convient d’indemniser en lui allouant la somme de 20 000 euros ».
Vous l’aurez compris, liberté d’expression totale… mais, dans certaines limites !
I think that to write : “Provocative speech incites violence, hurts oppressed groups and religious beliefs, and affects innocent lives. This must not fall in the category of ‘free speech’” may be extremelely dangerous because FOR WHO is it provocative? and WHO defines what is provocative? or shall define it? Charlie Hebdo were all brave. In France the freedom of speech ends with incitement to racial hatred, homophobe speeches, Holocaust denier. We have the right to blasphem, and it has to be saved. FOR ALL. Never such a slaughter can be justified!!! But perhaps that “I am not Charlie” is an awful fake. I AM CHARLIE MEANS FREEDOM.
Thank you for taking the time to let people know that this is one take on it. Not everyone has the same opinions or beliefs, nor should they. Your comment allows people to question the who, what and whys of it all. I think that’s what is needed.
Top of the day to ALL STAY BLESSED ; JE SUIS MANKIND ” I AM MANKIND ” STOP RACISM , PREJUDICE , BIGOTRY , HYPOCRISY , WE ARE ALL HUMANS !!!!!!!! Until then, the home grown acts of violence will continue and escalate. Common sense goes a long ways . Charlie Hebdo started that fight and many others as well.How you gonna shove your prejudice views in peoples faces and think it’s ok. No body likes being harassed or called names grow up wakeup . If the adult Cartoonist at #CharlieHebdo thought its ok to Harass Muslims through their cartoon mocking The Prophet Muhammad , can you imagine how the french kids in schools are mocking and harassing Muslim children . The adults are creating a divide that will go on to the children and never end . STOP STUPIDITY AND VIOLENCE ACROSS THE WORLD . WAKEUP PEOPLE SHOW RESPECT TOWARDS ONE ANOTHER. DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU #JESUISHUMAN Prayers going up for all ..
Although I am not directly tied to either ways of this problem, nor have I any kind of strong word to it. I can understand some views from both sides of the argument, which is what is needed. People need to have an open mind to these kind of things, we get so passionate about our own beliefs and feelings (greed) and do not take into consideration that of anyone else. No one should be targeted as a whole. Muslims all over are being targeted because of the extremists, yes that is an awful thing since were classifying them as a whole instead of individuals. I know it’s extremely hard to know otherwise who has “evil” agendas and who is just like the rest of the “peaceful” Muslim religion. I’m am not as educated as I should be to be able to know what is exactly going on from both parties, nor do I think anyone else is, but what I do know is that everyone should take a look as if you were 100% on one side of the argument, then flip that around, only then could you start to understand a happy middle ground that can actually have some kind of resolution to the “real” problem at hand. The media can show you whatever they want, which is where the power of the internet lies in our favor.
NOW>>> I feel that what we should actually realize here, is how all of this is dividing nations, persecuting innocents, and taking all of our rights away slowly. I don’t know about other countries, however, in America it’s things like this that can strike a “Martial Law” in which case when can kiss all the freedoms and our constitutional rights good-bye. This is giving governments around the world more of an excuse to watch your every move and wrongfully persecute anyone they would want to, to keep the rest “safe”. Your power as a people is being stripped away from you as you keep yourself blinded by the veil they have you covered with. Media is making a distraction while all the pieces are being put into place.
NOTE: I don’t believe (although I could be wrong) that governments had anything to do with the attack. I do believe they are using it as an excuse to do whatever they think should come next. And while we idly stand by arguing over who has what right, and who is actually right or wrong, they can move around undetected behind us to control what they need to.
PEACE BE WITH ALL, LOVE BE WITH YOU. HATE CAN NOT PREVAIL FOR A BETTER WORLD. Attacks like this bring out hate, the easiest and strongest emotion. YOU are making this place worse by hating the opposite of what you believe.
If your mom or dad were killed in a car crash would it be ok to make a caricature and post that in the paper cartoon section with their names attached to it ? Do you think Black people like to see Caricatures of being hung by KKK ? Why dont you caricature some Jews being burned in a furnace and see the response you get from that . Common sense has gone by the wayside along with 12 dead and 11 wounded . Was it worth it ? Racist and Prejudice views being shoved in peoples faces through Caricature is a coward move say how you feel and think to that persons face and stop hiding behind the 1st amendment to do so . Let me be very clear i in no way condone the violence carried out by those men , but i understand DO YOU ? common sense can go a long ways , but i forget your cartoonists beep beep thats all folks . shameful. Lets Awaken people #jesuischarlie ? Nah Je Ne Suis Charlie ty
We give freedom of speech to the New-Nazies, Ku Klux Klan, Wesboro Babtist Church, Scientology and even to Fox News :). These people publicly make hateful statements and we do nothing because it is freedom of speech.
Now we are talking about cartoonists drawing silly images of Jesus, Mohammed, Jews, buddhists, politicians, presidents etc.. making harmless jokes for a small audience who enjoy it. And for that it’s ok to slaughter 12 unarmed innocent people?
Freedom of speech means the right to say what you want even if it offends other people. When people say bad things about me or against my company, I IGNORE IT!! I don’t attack their freedom to write what they want, or go kill them with machine guns!!
Neither Islam, Christianism or Judaism are minorities. If I find that all those ridiculous religious myths and fanatics would fit a good mocking, because I find those beliefs offensive, should I deserve death? for SPEAKING about it? Am I destroying religion with a simple mock? I don’t need to bomb Iraq or the Vatican just because I know both religions are not tolerant of homosexuals for instance, or for repeated mistreatment of women throughout more traditional or machistic societies. A picture of Mohammad kissing a man is just that, a mockery of intolerance. Should I be intolerant to that?
Personally I believe we’re all entitled to our own opinions, and we have to understand how sensitive religious topics are in general especially concerning the people who practice it. Yes it was wrong for those people to kill those cartoonist but it is even more wrong to disrespect the customs and traditions of any culture and retaliate against them.
I want to know, if someone defaces their graves, with Muslim messages and claims freedom of speach, would that be ok? The answer is no, because it’s going too far and not being respectful. This is the same thing that many many cartoons did. I’m all for free speech, but they were tasteless, talentless and disrespectful. The murders cannot be condoned, but, Charlie Hebdo were wrong too.
Hmmm. Just because you are “anonymous” doesn’t mean you are right. I thought you might have something interesting to say but essentially you come across like the type of person that gets offended by comedy.
“Satire is supposed to be an act that punches up to power, and not down to the weak”. How is satire against religion,any religion, downing the weak? Religion is one of the most powerful entities in society and a most controlling, invasive detriments to society.
je ne suis pas charlie
May I be as bold to suggest that ypu change your background image I can’t see or read fek all.
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There is no democracy who the hell writes this stuff, if voting changed anything it would be illegal.
free speech !!? r u kiding me , insulting my prophet doesn’t count as a freedom of expression + I guess you don’t count the thousands upon millions who have been killed in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan …
#MuslimAndProud
can you point me to where Charlie Hebdo did anti-semitic or anti-christian cartoons. I can’t find it. Just anti-islam.
I’M MUSLIM. I LOVE PROPHET MUHAMMAD… Please You don’t create caricature about him.. He beloved of god. Moslem come to you with a peace & love.